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Between a swing to the right and a revolt

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In 2015 we released the documentary 'Une vie de lutte'

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about the activist Clément Méric

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about the rise of right-wing forces in France

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and antifascist struggles in Paris.

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In June 2016 we traveled to Paris again to meet

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some comrades and to join the commemoration

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activities around Clément's third day of death.

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We wanted to know something about news

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concerning the trial against the two main suspects

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and how people commemorated Clément this weekend.

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There are some news concerning

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the murder of Clément.

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They still didn't consider the knuckleduster

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as the murder weapon.

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The suspects are still not accused of murder.

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During the last months the trial was held in camera

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and the court still allows

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new documents to every charge.

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We currently don't have a trial date.

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They say it will be in winter 2017,

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but there's no guarantee for that.

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This year, the commemoration activities for Clément

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were similar to the first year.

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We organized a festival consisting of two concerts

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on Friday and Saturday - one evening with Rap and

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the other evening with Punk, Ska, Reaggae, Oi music.

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That's for Friday and Saturday.

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On Saturday afternoon we also had a demonstration

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and there has been a football tournament, organized

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by the MFC [Ménilmontant Football Club 1871]

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with various teams from France, Paris and Europe.

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To me, it's important that those who were murdered

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are not just a sad occasion to commemorate,

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but that we rather make clear

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that they died for a reason in a fight.

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When we have a party, people get together,

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share a mutual moment, it's a shared moment.

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It's a concert - our Rap music is a concert

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in commemoration of Clément.

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It's a call for commemoration and it's a way

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to express the time we spend together

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and that we support each other.

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Especially because there's not only the murder

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of Clément but there's also life

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and a social and political context.

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Well, the commemoration takes place in a time

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of social struggles and so on.

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Therefore it's important that people,

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who call themselves antifascists - and especially

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the surrounding of Clément, come together and

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spend time together, commemorate together

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in order to move forward, to motivate each other

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to continue and to do things together.

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This was a performance of 'Choral debout'

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and 'Orchestre debout' as an act of remembrance

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for Clément in form of a song.

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Well, I think this is respectable, because it's a move

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from people who were truly touched

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by the things that happened.

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On the other hand, the address at Place de la République

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isn't really related to us, because it doesn't belong

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to our political practice.

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But we accept those things, because we support

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the diversity of approaches and opinions.

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What's interesting about the topic of Clément,

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compared to the first year of commemoration:

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Back then everybody was interested, sad, touched.

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And as time goes by - like it often happens with people,

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who were murdered - the interest decreases

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and is replaced by other events.

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This year it was more difficult to assemble

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all the different organizations to this event.

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Of course they are still there and they're doing their best

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to make sure, that this murder does not

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fall into oblivion.

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There were connections established to other countries

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concerning fascist murders.

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There's a connection to Italians.

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Clément's parents are in contact with Italian mothers

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who lost their sons and daughters due to a murder.

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For the matter of cooperation:

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only few things have been established.

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We're focused on the trial and on what happens now

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and it's difficult to establish connections besides that.

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My name is Jean, I'm part of RAGE, Action Network Geneva,

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formerly Antifa Network Geneva.

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We came to Paris this weekend for the demonstration.

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We were also here three years ago,

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when Clément was murdered.

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We joined the first demonstration

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and we also came here for his first date of death.

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It's important to us to be present on such occasions

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to show our moral support

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and to support the comrades logistically.

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That's very important because we noticed that

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extreme right-wing structures establish cross-border,

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transnational connections.

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That's why it is necessary that we extend our networks

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to establish solidarity on an international level.

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Therefore we also took part in the demonstration

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in commemoration of Dax in Milan.

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We think that it's extremely important to keep up

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the remembrance for our comrades

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who were murdered and to continue their fight.

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It's important to overcome the isolation

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and to establish international contacts.

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We will start a campaign about the trial.

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We don't have a date yet

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but we're already preparing it.

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When we get the date, we need to be ready

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to tell the public again what happened

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and to be present in the internet.

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Because extreme right-wingers are very active

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in social networks - much more than we are.

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We need to re-establish the truth against

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all their lies and half-truths.

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We have to make clear that it was a political crime,

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not a brawl on the street that simply turned out badly.

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On 4th of June 2016 a commemoration demonstration

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for Clément took place on his third date of death.

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People from France

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and from many European countries participated.

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Due to this event the activists also protested

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against the increasing militarization of the public sphere,

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the neoliberal labor market reform and

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against the growing repression by state and police.

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Well, I guess we were approximately 3000 people

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on this resolute demonstration.

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But we were stopped by the police who divided

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the demo in two parts.

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Now we're in a police encirclement

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for more or less 45 minutes

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close to the St. Martin canal.

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We actually knew it before, because someone set

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a police car on fire right in this street a few weeks ago.

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The police stopped us there and therefore we were

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worried that they could strike back.

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Concerning the demonstration yesterday:

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according to people who took part, it was very violent.

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The demo was determined to go from a point A

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to a point B. It should start at Stalingrad,

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circle through Paris and end in the 20th Arrondissement.

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The demonstration started at 2 pm and was ended

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at half past 3 because the security forces decided

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to encircle the demonstrators and to block them

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between a number of CRS lines [police].

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The repression is currently completely directed

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against the social movements of the last months

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on occasion of the Loi Travail.

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The more we achieve with our demonstrations and

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the more weeks are passing by,

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the more brutal is the repression. As you can see in

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Rennes, in Nantes, everywhere in France, in Lille

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for example, where politically active people face

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an enormous repression because they dared to occupy

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a public square, because they have the misfortune to be

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at a demonstration, because they have the misfortune

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to be somewhere where

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things are getting out of control.

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And from this moment on any activism

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leads to repression.

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I can only state that I, as a demonstrator for about

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20 years, have never seen anything comparable to

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this police, who establish this kind of systematic

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repression at demonstrations.

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Violence against younger demonstrators, students

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- it's them who are most affected by it.

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Quite more than us in the union's parts

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and other parts of the demonstration.

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Alone being organized collectively in order to fight

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is criminalized. They call us "destroyers"

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or even "terrorists". This discourse

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has always existed, but now it's pushed

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by preventive arrests and custody

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that is extended systematically.

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These arrests are completely arbitrary

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and even lawyers say that everything is possible today.

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About the current situation: yesterday there was

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an antifascist demonstration and one part of it

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was encircled by the police. In order to get out,

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people had to hand over everything they carried.

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In some way I would call this robbery by the police.

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Some of the people complied - which can be criticized.

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But on the other hand there was  arbitrariness

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by the police and sometimes you just don't know

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how to defend yourself in any way.

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But people are making a huge effort

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to convey the following: "No, not everything is permitted,

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we can still use the remaining remedies

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to defend ourselves." And there's also a drift

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developing from it, e.g. the mutual support.

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People are far better equipped today, e.g. against

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tear gas - I've never seen it before in this way.

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When they shoot tear gas at you and you don't

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have any equipment, there's immediately

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10 people around, helping you to rinse your eyes.

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And that's new indeed. I mean, people

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have been doing that before,

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but now there's a systematic side to it,

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which is becoming a standard in their practice.

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In my opinion that's really interesting, even if it sounds

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like old stories, but I believe that it means something.

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There's another remarkable thing:

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today there are hundreds of people on each

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demonstration who affront the police because it's part

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of their political practice.

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Surprising is now that more and more people

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stand behind them who wouldn't fight themselves but

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who fill the gap behind them and offer a peaceful

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but determined support for the others by saying

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'that's not my approach

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but I don't want people to get arrested.' I can't remember

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ever having experienced something like this before.

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After the attacks in November 2015

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the French government declared a state of emergency

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which is constantly extended by the parliament

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and that lasts until today. The state of emergency,

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which was imposed under the pretext of preventing

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terrorist attacks, entails an increasing militarization

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of the public sphere and makes repression against

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politically inconvenient persons and structures

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much easier for state 'security' forces.

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Thus only 5 of over 2500 house searches,

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executed without a judicial search order,

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led to charges on suspicion of terrorism.

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Meanwhile the government plans to transfer

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numerous measures from the state of emergency

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into normal conditions via constitutional change,

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which would mean a massive limitation of civil rights.

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The state of emergency turned

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the political situation in France upside down.

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This is especially true for activism in this period,

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because the emergency rule

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was enforced right after the attacks.

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The police is more and more present in the streets.

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It practically became impossible not to come

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across them when you leave the house.

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In the matter of social movements, demonstrations,

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political commemoration, political actions, assemblies

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- the police is everywhere.

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At the beginning they forbid every

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demonstration and assembly.

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Meanwhile they're not that strict anymore

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and therefore we can make demonstrations.

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But as you could see during the last months

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with the 'Loi Travail' and the movement torched by it,

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the repression became more and more visible

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and more violent.

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They're currently presenting a law that should end

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the state of emergency - but at the same time

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extend the measures of police and justice.

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So - well, you can feel the state of emergency

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especially in the Banlieues.

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And it is brought to this movement through pressure

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by the police, going like this: "Attention, attention, …",

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until the demonstrations get out of hand

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and people become desperate.

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On the essential evenings with confrontations on

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the square [Place de la République] there were

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a lot of young people here. Everybody was here,

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actually – 18-year old and 70-year old people

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- and the police.

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By day there were demonstrations where the police

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exerted enormous pressure.

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That's a matter affecting the whole protest movement.

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It's clear that the state of emergency

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changes all circumstances.

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That means: what was unimaginable

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two months ago is everyday reality now.

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Concerning strategies to keep up law and order

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- also activists with a lot of experience see things

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that they've never seen before.

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An offensive, aggressive security policy,

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willing to strike physically.

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We're not in a way of escorting demonstrations,

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with some scrambling and a snappy balance between

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demonstrators and police.

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Now we can see the intention to spread fear

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- especially towards young people.

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State of emergency means brutal repression

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- especially against minorities and non-white persons.

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They are searching for people

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they can blame for the attacks.

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They are trying to prevent further ISIS-attacks

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but they are also turning against groups

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they call "religious communities".

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In terms of the state but also in parts

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of the general public, "religious communities"

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nowadays only means “Muslims”.

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If you're Catholic, Jewish, Hindu or religious

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in some other way, you are neither "community"

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nor a religious extremist.

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For the French state it's only Muslims.

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There really is a huge repression.

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They try to find Jihadists everywhere,

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remand people in custody whose beard is too long

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or whose clothes they dislike.

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And for veiled women it obviously became

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more complicated because today the veil

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is an enemy of the French state and of the

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French population - as the media puts it.

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In March 2016 the government's neo-liberal

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labor market reform provoked resistance.

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Subsequently French unions organized strikes

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spreading over the whole country.

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At the same time a young protest movement

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called 'Nuit debout' developed.

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It connected different people and didn't only criticize

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the new labor law but began questioning

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the whole political and economical system.

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As an initial impulse for the development of 'Nuit debout'

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the anti-oligarchic documentary movie

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'Merci Patron!' is mentioned.

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It deals with the closure of factories by

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a luxury company and the resulting unemployment

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and worker poverty.

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Meanwhile, the legislative package was passed

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but activists and unionists keep fighting

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for its withdrawal.

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At the beginning of 'Nuit debout'

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several events took place.

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At first there was a movie related to the periodical paper

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'FAKIR', called 'Merci Patron!' [Thanks, boss!].

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And people who made this movie...

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We heard that people left the preview screening

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of the movie charged with a lot of energy

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to change something and they said

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'Ok, we will collect contact data from everybody

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who watched the movie and we'll meet

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at the union's building opposite to the square.

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And then we'll see what we can do

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with this energy.'

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At an assembly people proposed: "Let's not just

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go home now. We're tired of making demonstrations

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once a week and then going back to work,

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waiting for the next demonstration on the

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following week and so on.

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There was a demonstration on March 31st

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and we didn't go home afterwards,

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but occupied a square and stayed there.

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Everything developed from this moment.

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There were some dozens or one-hundred people

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organizing it and we stayed for the whole night

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and even the whole weekend to talk about politics,

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to get together.

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We came from different fields of political activity

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and we wanted to share our motivation for mobilization,

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our working approaches and our work in general.

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So we do what's called "fusion of fights".

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We meet here, take our time to get to know

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each other, to discuss, to build something.

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It wasn't spontaneously really, because we

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prepared it but it was interesting that the people

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who heard the call, were mostly people

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who didn't have any militant experience,

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who discovered everything for the first time

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but who also wanted to do something.

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Thus, we were a number of people already being

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active in movements and others who said

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'We're living in a system that doesn't offer a way out

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and therefore we'll simply build up

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what we need ourselves.

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We don't know yet which form it'll have,

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we don't know exactly how we'll do it

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but we'll sit down together

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and we'll create it together.'

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'I may not have any experience,

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my ideas are quite blurry,

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but I don't want this system anymore.

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And I want to take part in creating something new.'

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Regarding the Loi Travail - which is also called

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Loi El Khomri, after Myriam El Khomri,

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minister for employment:

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It was published on February 17th and it is aimed

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at changing labor law completely.

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It contains 130 pages and 52 articles.

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Therefore it's a very complex law that affects

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the employee's conditions in many points,

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especially working hours.

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It's a law that aims to extend the weekly

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working time and to keep it variable in order

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to serve the company and the employer.

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For example: It will be possible to make blanket

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daily working time contracts.

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These will be working contracts that will determine

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a general payment without considering overtime.

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People would work any number of overtime

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hours by getting the same payment.

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In the big companies this has to be negotiated

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with the unions but it's planned [in the law]

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that companies with up to 50 employees,

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mid-size companies, can make these contracts

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without the union's agreement.

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Protest emerged quite fast. As I said, the

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legislative proposal was published on February 17th

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and the unions stated very early

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'That's a scandal! First of all, the legislative proposal

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is bad - bad for the employees.

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Secondly, we haven't been asked'.

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There was indeed a two-hour-meeting, where

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CGT, Force Ouvrière, CFDT (the big unions) were invited,

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but they didn't ask for our opinion.

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So the law's content was dictated.

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Therefore the big unions protested very fast.

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Youth organizations and university students

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also expressed their protest.

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During the strike days there sometimes are 'Nuit debout'

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blocks in the demonstrations and sometimes

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there are none. Everybody mixes with

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everybody, with unions' blocks or with other activists

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in front of the demonstration.

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As you can see - everybody can find a place.

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People are trying to make something out of it.

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Unions were invited several times to speak here.

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Apart from that, we're besides traditional

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political paths. We are bit less remote from the

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unions because many of us are organized in unions.

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On the other hand, the methods and forms of action

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are quite different from the unionist traditions.

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So we try working together with 'reason',

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whereby there definitely are a lot of

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significant differences.

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That partly runs together with unionist organizations

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because unionsts often come to the square.

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Then people take the mic and say 'I'm from the CGT

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and in my company this and that happens

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also I think this and that.'

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But there are also people mistrusting the unions:

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young people, unorganized people. Nevertheless there

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are also times with a great proximity to the unions.

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For example: On April 28th, a thursday, there were some

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big demonstrations. 50 or 60,000 people in Paris.

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Unions were invited to the meeting

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that took place at the Place de la République.

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The general secretary of the CGT

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Philippe Martinez, who represents approximately

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700,000 employees after all, came there.

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He spoke there, and he wasn't the first one,

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but he let several people speak before him

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and waited. Then he called up

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for a strike, even for a general strike.

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And that was new because the CGT didn't use

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the word 'general strike' in this conflict before.

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He said indeed 'I'd call up for a general strike if

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the government's actions make it necessary,

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if it doesn't withdraw.'

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To the more radical people who say 'general strike'

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carelessly he said that you can't order it.

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This wouldn't happen because you want it

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- it needs to be built up.

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Therefore we need to go into the companies.

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Both found each other there: the non-unionist

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organized, young people who are not organized,

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precarious people the unions don't care

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about enough and the unionist themselves.

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There were times when they worked well together

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and there were more suspicious phases.

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But I would say that the question is:

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How can they come together?

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Because otherwise we can't win.

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The CNT is an anarcho-syndicalist union,

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it' anarchist, revolutionary. We are located in quite

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a lot of vocational sectors in France with more or

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less importance depending on the professional branch

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and the region.

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...and at strikes, by striking, by being present

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at demonstrations and activities, by being present

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at Nuit debout also - you might have heard of it,

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this public space of permanent assemblies

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with good and not so good things, interesting and

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not so interesting things. But anyway,

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there happens a lot, a politicization of the public sphere

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where we assured our part as a union.

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We're continuing our work: propaganda, leaflets,

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publications, communiques, calls for strikes.

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Of course we call up for general strikes

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right from the beginning. Within our means

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we try to strike as much as we can.

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And besides that there 's an unbelievable amount of

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active people in the CNT who are very committed,

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who are acting as the "free" head at demonstrations.

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And this shows that the CNT

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is an union but an union that's

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different regarding its function, aims and approaches,

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just a little different compared to the

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traditional union structures.

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We don't know where we are heading from the

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beginning, or what we're building up.

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We don't know how to build it up yet.

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We are reinventing everything each time.

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Sometimes we reinvent things that have already

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been invented. Therefore it doesn't go very fast.

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What's interesting about it: an enormous

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number of people is mobilized for militant actions.

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And - we've talked about this before

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- among those people there are many

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who never raised their voice before against oppression,

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against capitalism and its functions, against the

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usage of police to beat down every opposition.

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And therefore there are many people

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who stand up and push forward new ideas.

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There's the assemblée populaire which is a great

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place to talk, where everybody can make

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proposals, where everybody can speak.

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There are commissions, which are working spaces

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to create new ideas and activities

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that are put into practice afterwards.

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Then there are the demonstrations and actions

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that start here. This is important to us because

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it keeps up the connection with the social movement

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on the square, especially with the movement

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against the Loi El Khomri, the labor law, but also with

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the actions, the presentations [at the square]

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or with the [striking] railway employees,

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the electricians, the gas workers, the teachers

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who think about how to change the relationship

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between school and society.

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There are many things starting here.

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Yes, there's some exchange. From the beginning

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we were told: 'In some way you're like the

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Indignados in Spain, you're like Podemos etc.'

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We dissociated ourselves from that.

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We said we're very interested in exchange with

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Spanish people, Greek people, Germans - with the

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whole planet, Turkish people occupying squares,

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Egyptians but every movement is very different.

528
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:45,519
We're surely no spin-off or offspring of the

529
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:49,200
Indignados. We're building up our own

530
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200
movement, it's impossible to say where it goes.

531
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,539
For the matter of international connections:

532
00:29:54,539 --> 00:29:57,099
They exist, there's a commission dealing with them.

533
00:29:57,099 --> 00:29:59,619
The connection to Spain is the strongest because

534
00:29:59,619 --> 00:30:01,879
we interact with Spanish people, who are here

535
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,180
from the beginning. People from all over the

536
00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:06,480
world are coming here.

537
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,319
And we're trying to build up new connections

538
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,740
for really becoming international.

539
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,880
We stated what we won't tolerate on the square:

540
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,700
neither racism, nor sexism, no infiltration by

541
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:24,319
right-wing people arguing ambiguous,

542
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:27,200
or being openly violent as it happened the

543
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,400
first Saturday night of Nuit debout.

544
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,320
Since then we have this position.

545
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:35,939
There is no place for extremely right-wing

546
00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:39,059
people here. And that's something everybody agrees on.

547
00:30:39,059 --> 00:30:41,419
Nevertheless there have been debates.

548
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:43,900
Some people said that we should let them speak

549
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,360
and see afterwards, whether their ideas are bad,

550
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:47,979
so that we could send them away.

551
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:50,319
But many of us were saying, that we did not create

552
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,559
a place like this to give it to people

553
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,759
already having a place to speak

554
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,400
and who want to silence our voices.

555
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480
Despite a new social movement from the left,

556
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,339
right-wing forces are still growing stronger

557
00:31:11,339 --> 00:31:14,359
in France - as in many other European countries.

558
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:17,759
The Front National, stoking a climate of fear after

559
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:21,000
the attacks in November 2015 and using it for

560
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,579
personal gain, reached their best election result

561
00:31:24,579 --> 00:31:27,960
in history at the regional elections in December

562
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400
2015 with 6.7 million votes.

563
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,439
The reactionary organization 'Manif pour tous'

564
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,759
is still taking thousands of people to the streets

565
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,859
for demonstrations against homosexual marriages.

566
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,859
New right-wing movements try to establish racist

567
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:47,240
resentments in society in the guise of freedom of speech.

568
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,559
Generally the right-wing is on the run when a

569
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,279
new politic space appears. Concerning the

570
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,660
institutional right, the Front National:

571
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:06,519
they have a problem because they are not quite able

572
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:09,379
to react to a movement. Because on the one hand

573
00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:12,140
- from a populist point of view - they want

574
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:15,160
to attend this movement and dedicate themselves to it.

575
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,300
On the other hand they see themselves as guards

576
00:32:18,299 --> 00:32:21,740
of a republican order due to their conservative views

577
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:24,740
and therefore they can't just say:

578
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:28,259
'Yes, strikes and blockades are the right thing.'

579
00:32:28,339 --> 00:32:30,419
There was a demonstration by discontent

580
00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:32,000
policemen and -women here on the

581
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,259
Place de la République on Wednesday, March 18th.

582
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,579
There were 1000 policemen and -women from different

583
00:32:37,579 --> 00:32:40,039
police unions, especially from a

584
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,319
right-wing union called 'Alliance'.

585
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,079
The policemen and -women demonstrated here

586
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:48,139
to support the public relations of the FN.

587
00:32:48,140 --> 00:32:50,480
In advance the FN announced

588
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,220
'We're going to support the policemen'.

589
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:57,360
That was some bad propaganda, because the FN-boss

590
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,519
in the region Ile de France, Wallerand de Saint-Just,

591
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,599
published an article on the internet where he stated:

592
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,319
'I'm standing here with this injured policeman',

593
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,159
using a press photo.

594
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
There's an injured policeman on the photo lying

595
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,379
on the ground and bleeding, but he wasn't hurt here

596
00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,380
- but in Thailand.

597
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:18,100
It was a Thai policeman from 2014, two years ago.

598
00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:22,319
That was the prologue. And then they came to

599
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,279
this square. The day of the demonstration there

600
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,000
were grids around the square, you couldn't just

601
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,519
enter - you needed a press card or police ID.

602
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,839
Parliamentarians could also enter, because

603
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,039
you could pass with a parliamentarian ID.

604
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,119
The Front National has two parliamentarians

605
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:38,679
in the National Parliament,

606
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,000
Marion Maréchal-Le Pen - a young woman -

607
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,319
and Gilbert Collard, a former lawyer. The two of them

608
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,779
came here. It was quite a great success for them,

609
00:33:45,779 --> 00:33:48,079
because many policemen and -women wanted to take

610
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:49,939
a picture with them, especially with

611
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,799
Marion Maréchal-Le Pen. So they were

612
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,460
in the public's eye again.

613
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,400
A climate of fear, times of social uncertainty,

614
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,120
uncertainty in the world of employment

615
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,919
or uncertainty on the street due to the

616
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,519
assassinations and other things - that's always a

617
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,900
soil for extreme right-wing structures to flourish.

618
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,280
But there's a tendency -  in France and abroad -

619
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680
to pretend that right-wingers have won in every

620
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,819
aspect. That means: no matter what happens -

621
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:24,700
right-wingers benefit from it.

622
00:34:25,179 --> 00:34:29,259
In Switzerland there's a xenophobic, populist,

623
00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:32,740
islamophobic party, the UDC,

624
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:36,359
Schweizerische Volkspartei, SVP

625
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:42,420
This party regularly presents public petitions concerning

626
00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:46,240
asylum law and this makes life harder

627
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,679
for migrants in Switzerland.

628
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:54,980
Nowadays the Front National takes over poster motifs

629
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:59,840
from every SVP campaign. There's a poster made

630
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,240
by the SVP showing a minaret and also used

631
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,419
by the Front National.

632
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,240
For every election success of the SVP in Switzerland

633
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,859
Marine Le Pen pipes up and congratulates the SVP and

634
00:35:18,860 --> 00:35:22,800
Switzerland for passing xenophobic, racist laws.

635
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,440
On the other hand, from my point of view,

636
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,519
it's the French fascist groups on the margin of the FN

637
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:36,780
who are a bigger problem in Switzerland,

638
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:40,180
because there's a border to France.

639
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:46,839
Due to the fact that the Swiss right-wingers

640
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:54,640
built up many connections to the French right-wingers

641
00:35:54,639 --> 00:36:01,379
there are many militant French Neo-Fascists

642
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:07,320
coming to Switzerland for working and exporting

643
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,160
their activism, their knowledge - and that creates a

644
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:16,019
transnational connection

645
00:36:16,019 --> 00:36:21,539
between Switzerland and France.

646
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,659
The [right] radicals are traditionally living by the baton.

647
00:36:25,659 --> 00:36:29,099
Therefore they often attack demonstrators themselves

648
00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:32,819
acting like an auxiliary police. It always was like this.

649
00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:36,539
Now there's something new and that's the confusionists.

650
00:36:36,539 --> 00:36:39,860
They are saying that they're not right-wing.

651
00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:42,599
They're representing right-wing opinions but they say

652
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,099
that's freedom of speech and see themselves

653
00:36:45,099 --> 00:36:48,460
as a social movement. But they're a small minority.

654
00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:51,760
It's problematic, that right-wing structures changed

655
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,820
their appearance very much. Therefore they can

656
00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:58,120
intrude new fields without being directly connected

657
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,179
with the political right and without being uncovered.

658
00:37:01,179 --> 00:37:04,440
And even if they are there is this strange relation

659
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,920
to freedom of speech today, saying that every opinion

660
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,599
has to be respected and that racism were

661
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,659
'not good but an opinion like the others' and that

662
00:37:13,659 --> 00:37:16,879
you need to listen to everybody and so on. And that

663
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,140
nothing needs to be more protected than this fact.

664
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,920
The right-wing is on a lifted and well developed

665
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,940
level. I would say that's the result of four years of

666
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:29,760
social-democratic policy which failed in

667
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,500
all sectors, which is bad in all sectors and

668
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,360
contributed to the increasing votes for the

669
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400
political right from those, who were disappointed

670
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,900
by social democracy. But right-wingers have

671
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,420
already been on a good level before.

672
00:37:43,539 --> 00:37:47,699
The most important right-wing party, the Front National,

673
00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:51,599
got 17.9% - let's say 18% - in the presidential elections

674
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:56,839
on April 22nd 2012. The votes increased from there.

675
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,400
They had 18% and today they get 25% of the votes,

676
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,099
whereby there was a high abstention rate.

677
00:38:06,099 --> 00:38:11,019
So...There were local elections in March 2014

678
00:38:11,019 --> 00:38:13,980
and European elections on March 25th  2014

679
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:17,179
when the Front National got 25%.

680
00:38:17,179 --> 00:38:20,619
There were Départment elections in March 2015

681
00:38:20,619 --> 00:38:24,159
- another 25% for the Front National.

682
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:27,719
There were regional elections in December 2015 where

683
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,159
the Front National got 27%.

684
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,539
Thus: they're on a high level.

685
00:38:32,539 --> 00:38:35,440
The result of 4 years left-wing government

686
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,099
is completely bad and that contributed to it.

687
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,580
We as autonomous antifascists find elections

688
00:38:41,579 --> 00:38:44,319
interesting but we're not affected directly.

689
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,980
It doesn't seem to be important to us who

690
00:38:46,980 --> 00:38:49,539
wins the elections in 2017 but we're asking ourselves

691
00:38:49,539 --> 00:38:52,199
if the people will finally start thinking about

692
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,480
how to organize society and about how

693
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,199
they want to live.

694
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,639
And it's definitely necessary to resist.

695
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,279
No matter who's head of the state, it's gonna be

696
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,260
the same police, the same policy, it's gonna be the

697
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:07,500
same changes. And for us: which projects are we going

698
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:11,400
to develop, which projects are we going to push further.

699
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,559
These are our questions.

700
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:25,500
Rap is a tool in the antifascist struggle for expressing

701
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,920
parts of the struggle. When we either make

702
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,019
a rap concert or we spend a good time with people,

703
00:40:34,019 --> 00:40:37,679
bringing them closer to this discourse or giving them

704
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,719
an understanding of our texts. When we back people up

705
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,599
who hang out with our comrades

706
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:46,839
- that's fun, it's a pleasure.

707
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,159
And music is good because it...it allows to

708
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:55,000
touch people, to sensitize them for certain ideas

709
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,780
and practices. Because you don't choose to be

710
00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:03,240
touched by music, it happens randomly.

711
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:08,039
Then  you try to understand and you come across

712
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:12,539
what we do with [the label] BBoyKonsian,

713
00:41:12,539 --> 00:41:16,360
what we develop, how we live, how we're organized,

714
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680
what we're doing on the streets and so on.

715
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:23,819
I actually think that we could inspire many people.

716
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:27,580
Those people only liked rap before.

717
00:41:27,579 --> 00:41:31,639
And then they say 'Wow, I like rap, i like Première Ligne

718
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:34,639
and then I'm already inside this universe',

719
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,239
that's how it goes.

720
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,219
I think, that the point here is an unexpected

721
00:41:41,219 --> 00:41:44,839
development of a progressive social movement

722
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,860
in France. In the years 2013, 2014 there was a big

723
00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:51,019
reactionary movement - the 'Manif pour tous'.

724
00:41:51,019 --> 00:41:54,119
Hundred thousands of people demonstrated with it.

725
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,539
And we started losing hope for

726
00:41:56,539 --> 00:41:58,920
something to happen from our side.

727
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,639
It was similar in 2010. There was a mobilization

728
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:04,699
against a pension reform that finally didn't lead

729
00:42:04,699 --> 00:42:07,519
to something successful. And now,

730
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:11,659
for two, almost three months, we feel as if something is

731
00:42:11,659 --> 00:42:15,759
finally happening. In some way it's similar to the

732
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,980
big striking movement in many vocational sectors 1995

733
00:42:18,980 --> 00:42:23,480
in France. And now we see this social movement,

734
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,280
which is traditionally unionist at the same time,

735
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,880
in many important sectors

736
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,019
like transport, energy, education.

737
00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:37,039
Interesting is that it creates alliances

738
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,940
- something we've already seen in other countries,

739
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:43,059
in Spain or in Greece. It's a development

740
00:42:43,059 --> 00:42:46,679
of a movement that supports employees and that has

741
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:49,480
other questions apart from the most simple ones.

742
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,440
It is concerned about the labor reform for example

743
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,940
and it invites people to get involved, to develop

744
00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:00,280
fresh hope and especially, to say that the

745
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,360
possibility of social change is not a myth

746
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,440
or fantasy but something that can become

747
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,559
true even if we don't know yet, where we go.

748
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,659
From the the first day on I think it will be over tomorrow.

749
00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:17,799
That's why I'm pleasantly surprised every day.

750
00:43:18,619 --> 00:43:22,960
I'm definitely for another policy and political structure,

751
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,280
completely different from the existing one.

752
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,739
For France this means: an abolition of the constitution

753
00:43:29,739 --> 00:43:32,359
of the 5th Republic and the establishment of a

754
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,740
constituent assembly that creates a new constitution.

755
00:43:34,739 --> 00:43:36,699
Abolishment of presidency.

756
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,900
I think it's indispensable - and that seems important

757
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:44,000
- that we profit from the current social climate

758
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,179
to change people's belief that right-wing policy

759
00:43:48,179 --> 00:43:53,399
is an alternative concerning the social question

760
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,680
The more people explore new ways,

761
00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:01,219
the more possibilities emerge, the more people see

762
00:44:01,219 --> 00:44:04,899
the political right as an alternative - but in which sense?

763
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:08,380
We need to offer a counter-model for that.

764
00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:11,780
But since we don't have an alternative concept in society

765
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,620
now we couldn't do so, because people say

766
00:44:14,619 --> 00:44:17,460
'You're just talking, but you have nothing

767
00:44:17,460 --> 00:44:20,679
to offer on your own'. Now we can focus on something.

768
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:23,519
We can start all over.

769
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,500
But we're staying alert because - as I said -

770
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,239
the current movement doesn't have

771
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,699
a stable political identity yet.

772
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:33,760
Clément didn't die in vain,

773
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,140
neither in a random situation nor in a random context.

774
00:44:37,139 --> 00:44:40,819
Right-wing structures, repression, the state

775
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:44,640
are growing stronger the more time passes,

776
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,099
the more years are passing by.

777
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,260
Well, I think, that for a change in the current situation

778
00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:54,020
in France we'll need a revolution.

779
00:44:54,019 --> 00:44:56,800
Nowadays it's easier to talk about revolution

780
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,240
than to induce it.

781
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,619
In a way the violence of the state 'helped' to show

782
00:45:05,619 --> 00:45:10,400
people the brutal repression of every protest

783
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,960
- something we've told them for years.

784
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,599
That's not right, but if we take ourselves into

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a revolutionary perspective, this means

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to assume that possible changes don't come softly

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but heavy, that it has to be organized and carried out

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collectively and that there's more than one way to do it.

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The interesting thing is, that there's no dogmatism

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right now, no well-defined way.

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There's no assistance by political structures or parties

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or organizations or even a political practice

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in this movement. It stays pluralist, it stays open,

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it's a minority yet but it could create something.

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Of course it makes sense for antifascists to fight against

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right-wing structures, to become stronger for real,

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to make ourselves understood,

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if we really have an alternative to defend.

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In tribute to all victims of right-wing violence!

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Many thanks to everybody who made this project

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possible through their donations

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and support of any kind!

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We also thank all groups and persons who

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contributed to this production!
